[Beowulf] batch systems connection

[Mikhail Kuzminsky]

Sorry, may be my question is not exactly for our Beowulf maillist.
I have 2 small OpenSuSE-based clusters using different batch systems,
and want to connect them "grid-like", via CREAM (Computing Resource
Execution And Management)
service (I may add
also one additional common server for both clusters).

But there is no CREAM binary RPMs for OpenSuSE (Only for CentOS7/SL6
on UMD site
//repository.egi.eu/2018/03/14/release-umd-4-6-1/). I did not find:
where I can download source text of CREAM software ?

Mikhail Kuzminsky
Zelinsky Institute of Organic Chemistry
Moscow
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[Dmitri Chubarov]

Hi, Mikhail,

I am not an expert in the European Grid Infrastructure, but I would
definitely check out also the CREAM homepage at
http://grid.pd.infn.it/cream/field.php
And the repository of org.glite.ce packages with sources that the homepage
points to: http://eticssoft.web.cern.ch/eticssoft/repository/org.glite/

I would expect building this on your infrastructure might require some
ingenuity as it often happens with grid software.

All the best from not so snowy Novosibirsk

Post by Mikhail Kuzminsky
Sorry, may be my question is not exactly for our Beowulf maillist.
I have 2 small OpenSuSE-based clusters using different batch systems,
and want to connect them "grid-like", via CREAM (Computing Resource
Execution And Management)
service (I may add
also one additional common server for both clusters).
But there is no CREAM binary RPMs for OpenSuSE (Only for CentOS7/SL6
on UMD site
where I can download source text of CREAM software ?
Mikhail Kuzminsky
Zelinsky Institute of Organic Chemistry
Moscow
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[Jörg Saßmannshausen]

Hi Mikhail,

if you are familiar with RPM: if there are source-rpm files you should be able
to rebuild it on your system. That way you don't install software which is not
managed by your package management system which might be of advantage.

All the best from a currently wet London

Jörg

Post by Mikhail Kuzminsky
Sorry, may be my question is not exactly for our Beowulf maillist.
I have 2 small OpenSuSE-based clusters using different batch systems,
and want to connect them "grid-like", via CREAM (Computing Resource
Execution And Management)
service (I may add
also one additional common server for both clusters).
But there is no CREAM binary RPMs for OpenSuSE (Only for CentOS7/SL6
on UMD site
where I can download source text of CREAM software ?
Mikhail Kuzminsky
Zelinsky Institute of Organic Chemistry
Moscow
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[John Hearns via Beowulf]

Mikhail,
if it was me I would choose which batch system I liked most.. then install
that on both clusters.
As you already have an installation on one cluster then cloning that should
be a lot less effort.
You can then configure a routing queue between the clusters.

Post by Jörg Saßmannshausen
Hi Mikhail,
if you are familiar with RPM: if there are source-rpm files you should be able
to rebuild it on your system. That way you don't install software which is not
managed by your package management system which might be of advantage.
All the best from a currently wet London
Jörg

Post by Mikhail Kuzminsky
Sorry, may be my question is not exactly for our Beowulf maillist.
I have 2 small OpenSuSE-based clusters using different batch systems,
and want to connect them "grid-like", via CREAM (Computing Resource
Execution And Management)
service (I may add
also one additional common server for both clusters).
But there is no CREAM binary RPMs for OpenSuSE (Only for CentOS7/SL6
on UMD site
where I can download source text of CREAM software ?
Mikhail Kuzminsky
Zelinsky Institute of Organic Chemistry
Moscow
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[Prentice Bisbal]

This is a bit round-about, but if you can only find the source RPM
(SRPM) , the SRPM should include the source tarball, so in theory, you
can install the SRPM, and then just take the source tarball from there,
and do what you want with it.

Prentice

Post by Jörg Saßmannshausen
Hi Mikhail,
if you are familiar with RPM: if there are source-rpm files you should be able
to rebuild it on your system. That way you don't install software which is not
managed by your package management system which might be of advantage.
All the best from a currently wet London
Jörg

Post by Mikhail Kuzminsky
Sorry, may be my question is not exactly for our Beowulf maillist.
I have 2 small OpenSuSE-based clusters using different batch systems,
and want to connect them "grid-like", via CREAM (Computing Resource
Execution And Management)
service (I may add
also one additional common server for both clusters).
But there is no CREAM binary RPMs for OpenSuSE (Only for CentOS7/SL6
on UMD site
where I can download source text of CREAM software ?
Mikhail Kuzminsky
Zelinsky Institute of Organic Chemistry
Moscow
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[John Hearns via Beowulf]

Prentice - duuuh of course. As I remember Redhat changed the place where
a source RPM places its source files.
It was under /usr/src I think it now unpacks locally under roots home
directory.

Once can also unpack the files from an RPM using:
rpm2cpio packagename.rpm | cpio -idv

I cant rememberif that exactly works with a source RPM, but it should.

This is a bit round-about, but if you can only find the source RPM (SRPM)
, the SRPM should include the source tarball, so in theory, you can install
the SRPM, and then just take the source tarball from there, and do what you
want with it.
Prentice

Post by Jörg Saßmannshausen
Hi Mikhail,
if you are familiar with RPM: if there are source-rpm files you should be able
to rebuild it on your system. That way you don't install software which is not
managed by your package management system which might be of advantage.
All the best from a currently wet London
Jörg

Post by Mikhail Kuzminsky
Sorry, may be my question is not exactly for our Beowulf maillist.
I have 2 small OpenSuSE-based clusters using different batch systems,
and want to connect them "grid-like", via CREAM (Computing Resource
Execution And Management)
service (I may add
also one additional common server for both clusters).
But there is no CREAM binary RPMs for OpenSuSE (Only for CentOS7/SL6
on UMD site
where I can download source text of CREAM software ?
Mikhail Kuzminsky
Zelinsky Institute of Organic Chemistry
Moscow
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[Prentice Bisbal]

John,

That's correct. It in ~/rpmbuild now, so that you don't need to be root
to install/build an SRPM.

I knew there was some way to use cpio to extract an RPM, too, but I
didn't know the command. Thanks for sharing.

Prentice

Prentice - duuuh of course.   As I remember Redhat changed the place
where a source RPM places its source files.
It was under /usr/src  I think it now unpacks locally under roots home
directory.
rpm2cpio  packagename.rpm | cpio -idv
I cant rememberif that exactly works with a source RPM, but it should.
This is a bit round-about, but if you can only find the source RPM
(SRPM) , the SRPM should include the source tarball, so in theory,
you can install the SRPM, and then just take the source tarball
from there, and do what you want with it.
Prentice
Hi Mikhail,
if you are familiar with RPM: if there are source-rpm files
you should be able
to rebuild it on your system. That way you don't install
software which is not
managed by your package management system which might be of advantage.
All the best from a currently wet London
Jörg
Sorry, may be my question is not exactly for our Beowulf maillist.
I have 2 small OpenSuSE-based clusters using different
batch systems,
and want to connect them "grid-like", via CREAM (Computing Resource
Execution And Management)
service (I may add
also one additional common server for both clusters).
But there is no CREAM binary RPMs for OpenSuSE (Only for
CentOS7/SL6
on UMD site
//repository.egi.eu/2018/03/14/release-umd-4-6-1/
<http://repository.egi.eu/2018/03/14/release-umd-4-6-1/>).
where I can download source text of CREAM software ?
Mikhail Kuzminsky
Zelinsky Institute of Organic Chemistry
Moscow
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[Skylar Thompson]

For software for which there are no pre-built RPMs, I'm a big fan of using
fpm to build the RPMs, rather than trying to write a .spec file by hand:

https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm

You can point fpm at a directory tree, and build a RPM (or .deb, or Solaris
pkg, etc.) for it. There's options for pre-/post-install scripts,
dependencies, requirements, etc. as well.

Post by Mikhail Kuzminsky
Sorry, may be my question is not exactly for our Beowulf maillist.
I have 2 small OpenSuSE-based clusters using different batch systems,
and want to connect them "grid-like", via CREAM (Computing Resource
Execution And Management)
service (I may add
also one additional common server for both clusters).
But there is no CREAM binary RPMs for OpenSuSE (Only for CentOS7/SL6
on UMD site
where I can download source text of CREAM software ?
Mikhail Kuzminsky
Zelinsky Institute of Organic Chemistry
Moscow
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